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Watch the video!<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/cloud-foundry-deployment-tools-bosh-vs-juju-charms\/#Related_slides\" >Related slides<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/cloud-foundry-deployment-tools-bosh-vs-juju-charms\/#About_the_speaker\" >About the speaker<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Not_only_BOSH_Juju_is_also_worth_trying\"><\/span>Not only BOSH, Juju is also worth trying!<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Cloud Foundry is a real deal for deploying your applications: self-healing, scalable, portable, IaaS-agnostic, etc. Still, to make sure that you smoothly work your way up from development to production, you need a bit of help. Such tools as BOSH and Juju Charms are there to give you a hand.<\/p>\n<p>Supervised by Pivotal, the BOSH tool chain allows for easy software versioning, packaging, and deploying in a reproducible manner. It is designed to address the four principles of modern <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Release_engineering\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Release Engineering<\/a>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>identifiability<\/li>\n<li>reproducibility<\/li>\n<li>consistency<\/li>\n<li>agility<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>While other tools\u2014Chef, Puppet, etc.\u2014usually can handle only one problem at a time, BOSH is aimed at totally saving the day.<\/p>\n<p>The table below demonstrates the results of the five deployment tools compared (Puppet, Chef, Salt, Ansible, Juju, and BOSH) across 12 parameters dealing with deployment life-cycle management, orchestration, and configuration. So, BOSH and Juju just nailed it!<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/deployment-tools-comparison-yurkevich.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/deployment-tools-comparison-yurkevich.jpg\" alt=\"deployment-tools-comparison-yurkevich\" width=\"640\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-6127\" \/><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Issues_with_BOSH\"><\/span>Issues with BOSH<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>It seems that expectations quite meet the reality. Once you feel like all your dreams have come true, there is always a bitter pill to take. In this case, it\u2019s all about developer adoption.<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/deployment-tools-developer-adoption-yurkevich.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/deployment-tools-developer-adoption-yurkevich.jpg\" alt=\"deployment-tools-developer-adoption-yurkevich\" width=\"640\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-6128\" \/><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>It turns out that BOSH is a tough cookie. It takes time and effort to learn it, information is hard to find, there is no software-defined networking, and the ecosystem is&#8211;to some degree&#8211;limited.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"What_are_Juju_Charms\"><\/span>What are Juju Charms?<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>As an alternative to BOSH, Juju Charms get into the game. So, who is behind this tool and what can it offer?<\/p>\n<p>Juju is an open-source orchestration tool that allows for deploying, configuring, managing, maintaining, and scaling cloud services quickly and efficiently on public clouds, physical servers, OpenStack, and containers. The project is managed by Canonical; Juju Charms for Cloud Foundry are supervised by Canonical and Pivotal. Altoros is also actively contributing to the development of Juju Charms.<\/p>\n<p>With Juju, one can push services to all of the main IaaS solutions (AWS, OpenStack, Azure, etc.) by typing a command in the console or clicking one button in the GUI. The charms can set relations between services and make necessary adjustments automatically.<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/deployment-tools-juju-scheme-of-work-yurkevich.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/deployment-tools-juju-scheme-of-work-yurkevich.jpg\" alt=\"deployment-tools-juju-scheme-of-work-yurkevich\" width=\"640\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-6129\" \/><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>When we compared five deployment tools, it turned out that Juju comes short of rolling updates only in comparison to BOSH and outplays in terms of developer adoption. Besides, Juju Charms have got issues of their own: Juju local environment is not supported, the number of service brokers is limited, etc.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Freedom_of_choice\"><\/span>Freedom of choice<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Surely, both projects are rapidly evolving, new features are added, and bugs are fixed. To decide between the tools, you need to set your priorities clear. It&#8217;s quite interesting that Juju succeeds where BOSH lags\u2014and vice versa. So, it&#8217;s up to the features you need in the first place.<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/deployment-tools-juju-vs-bosh-yurkevich.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/deployment-tools-juju-vs-bosh-yurkevich.jpg\" alt=\"deployment-tools-juju-vs-bosh-yurkevich\" width=\"640\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-6130\" \/><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>To see how it works, read our series of blogs on the topic:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href='https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/juju-charms-for-cloud-foundry-how-to-deploy-customize-and-upgrade\/' >How to Deploy, Customize, and Upgrade Juju Charms<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href='https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/how-to-implement-integration-tests-for-juju-charms\/'>How to Implement Integration Tests for Juju Charms<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.altoros.com\/blog\/deploying-cloud-foundry-in-a-single-click-with-juju-charms\/\">Deploying Cloud Foundry in a Single Click with Juju Charms<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Documentation:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bosh.io\/docs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">BOSH Docs<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/juju.is\/about\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Juju User Guide<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Juju Charms are still a &quot;dark horse&quot; for many Cloud Foundry devs\/operators. However, this orchestration tool offers a decent alternative for those who already work with Ubuntu. In comparison to BOSH, Juju Charms are far easier to learn. Its GUI features drag-and-drop functionality that greatly simplifies creation of complex stacks. So, why not give it a try?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Want_details_Watch_the_video\"><\/span>Want details? Watch the video!<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<table width=100%>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"video-details-td\">\n<div style=\"float:right; width:43%; padding-left:15px; font-size:14px;\">\n<strong>Table of contents<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>How does Cloud Foundry routing works? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=323\">05&#8217;23&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>How to achieve faster TTM and lower TCO? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=396\">06&#8217;36&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>What is BOSH? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=751\">12&#8217;31&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>What features do BOSH, Juju, Puppet, Chef, Salt, and Ansible support? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=1134\">18&#8217;54&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Why is manual installation a heavy burden? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=1212\">20&#8217;12&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>How are BOSH, Juju, Puppet, Chef, Salt, and Ansible ready for dev adoption? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=1286\">21&#8217;26&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Why is BOSH not enough? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=1408\">23&#8217;28&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>What is Juju? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=1431\">23&#8217;51&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>What limitations does Juju impose? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=1460\">24&#8217;20&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>What is the future of the Juju project? (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=1605\">26&#8217;45&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>BOSH vs. Juju (<a href=\"#wistia_8opm0mipba?time=1709\">28&#8217;29&#8221;<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div id=\"wistia_8opm0mipba\" class=\"wistia_embed\" style=\"width:450px;height:338px;\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p><script charset=\"ISO-8859-1\" src=\"\/\/fast.wistia.com\/assets\/external\/E-v1.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<script>\nwistiaEmbed = Wistia.embed(\"8opm0mipba\");\n<\/script><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Related_slides\"><\/span>Related slides<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<p><small>This presentation provides a technical overview of both tools. The solutions are compared and scored across different criteria that illustrate to what extent the tools are fit for adoption, configuring, monitoring, rolling updates, etc. You will also learn about issues, limitations, and future of these deployment tools.<\/small><\/p>\n<p><center><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/www.slideshare.net\/slideshow\/embed_code\/41560549\" width=\"640\" height=\"355\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" style=\"border:1px solid #CCC; border-width:1px; margin-bottom:5px; max-width: 100%;\" allowfullscreen> <\/iframe><\/center><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"About_the_speaker\"><\/span>About the speaker<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n<div style=\"float:right\"><!-- Linkedin Profile Badge: http:\/\/3doordigital.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/linkedin-profile-badge\/ -->\r\n<script type=\"IN\/MemberProfile\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/andreiyurkevich\" data-format=\"inline\"  data-related=\"false\"><\/script><\/div>\n<div style=\"width:450px;\"><small><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/andreiyurkevich\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Andrei Yurkevich<\/a> is CTO of Altoros. He has grown Altoros\u2019s engineering team from zero to 300+ specialists across seven development centers around the world. Currently, he is building a portfolio of experts who bring &#8220;software assembly lines&#8221; into organizations through training, deployment, and integration of solutions offered by the Cloud Foundry ecosystem. 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